Terri Horman: "Thinkers" vs. "Feelers" and WWIII

This is going to be a post about the Myers-Briggs Type Indicators (MBTI) regarding the views of the "Thinkers" and "Feelers" regarding Terri Horman's innocense or alleged guilt so if you do not understand what is meant by "thinkers" "feelers" and the other type indicators, it would be wise to do some research on the topic:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=604&q=MBTI&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

As an INTJ (T is for thinker), it is unfathomable to me how the "feelers" (xxFx) can judge Terri to be guilty based on public opinion and how they feel about her.

As a Thinker, I base my opinions and theories on facts and observations, not feelings.  A good overview of the type indicators http://www.personalitypathways.com/type_inventory.html
 

Thinking Characteristics Instinctively search for facts and logic in a decision situation. Naturally notices tasks and work to be accomplished. Easily able to provide an objective and critical analysis. Accept conflict as a natural, normal part of relationships with people.

Feeling Characteristics Instinctively employ personal feelings and impact on people in decision situations Naturally sensitive to people needs and reactions. Naturally seek consensus and popular opinions. Unsettled by conflict; have almost a toxic reaction to disharmony.

Feelers are basing their opinion that Terri is guilty based on their feelings while thinkers see there is no factual basis to state that Terri is guilty since there have been no facts yet given in this case.

The thinkers should pity the feelers because the feelers cannot help believing their feelings are truth.  The feelers tend to be more gullible than the thinkers¹.  They are the ones that fall for the Nigerian 419 scams (send them your bank info and they will give you a 1/3 of the billion dollars their uncle needs to get out of an African country, etc.) and they tend to believe things because of their feelings.  If a thinker saw the scam, they would wonder why someone would need help to get the money out of the country and how the scammer picked their email address to send a cold call "confidential" email to.

Feelers cannot change.  They will continue to believe nonsense they choose to believe if they feel it is right.  It would not matter if 100% of the facts contradict their feelings - they will go with their feelings 99.9% of the time.  Feelers tend to become codependents easier than the thinkers and will believe everything a narcissist says if it goes with what they feel is right.  Feelers become sock puppets much easier than thinkers do.

Thinkers, on the other hand, will go with whatever the facts support.  If they find the facts no longer support their position, they go with whatever position supported by the facts.  This can be mind boggling to a feeler that will back their feelings 100% in spite of what the facts are.  Thinkers do not become sock puppets - they defend their position based on facts even if everyone else disagrees with them.  Conflict is natural to a thinker because they won't go along with popular opinion (especially of the feelers) when the facts do not support it.  The thinkers become the scapegoats of the narcissists and the narcissist's sock puppets because the thinker does not mind conflict while the feelers who seek consensus and popular opinion get into a herd mentality (see: The herd mentality (Sock Puppetry) of the "Terri is guilty" crowd )

So the feelers will always consider Terri Horman guilty because they feel she is and felt that way from the beginning.  NOTHING will change their opinion even if law enforcement comes out and says she could not be involved and was not involved.  They will claim she had a vast conspiracy of people helping her but she is still somehow guilty because Kaine Horman said she is and so they feel she is.

The thinkers see there are no facts that support Terri Horman being guilty.  The only thing that has pointed to her guilt is the ever changing confabulated lies of Kaine Horman - and nothing he has said is a FACT.

There will be no way the feelers and thinkers will agree because feelers feel they are right (no matter what the facts support) while thinkers go with the facts.  A warning about feelers - they often try and claim they are thinkers (but thinkers never try and claim they are feelers)

1.  http://www.infj.org/public/infjness.html

[feelers] can be quite gullible; many INFJs build up a protective armour over the years to protect against this and being "used" by others

Verizon Web Mail - *MAJOR SECURITY ALERT*

If you have Verizon email and use web mail, you need to stop clicking on the links in the mail messages - even if they are from legitimate sources such as Google Alerts.  Verizon Web Mail has a major security issue in which someone may be able to access your email account if you click on the link.

This is an issue I just discovered and has been reported to Verizon.

This means ANY link you click can be a security issue for you - it CAN compromise your email account.  You need to copy / paste the link in a new browser window and do NOT open ANY link from Verizon Web Mail.  Verizon seems to be the only web mail service that has this issue that I have tested.

I will not post the details of this problem  - it may or may not make the news before it is fixed.  Likely Verizon will request this post be removed.

Oh - I have no link to back up what I'm saying - so believe it or not at your own risk.

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42ndState Rent Raising Fundraiser - Free web page background images

This is the last post of free graphics during december's rent raising fund raiser event (see: ANNOUNCING: 42ndState Rent Raising Fundraiser   and  Kaine Horman's spokesperson - FREE Graphic as part of the 42ndState fundraiser  and Free 42ndState Rent Raising Fund Raiser Red Eyed Tree Frog Graphic  )

Depending on the amount of donations received, I will periodically be offering more free graphics.  Special orders welcome.

Today's free graphics are background images for web pages (or desktops)

 
To download them, right click and 'save as' to a folder or location of your choice.  To test them out, copy the following code and paste into notepad (or another text editor) and save it as a .htm file in the location where the graphics are located.  Change the text in red to the name of the graphic you want to test and save the file.  Clicking on the .htm file should launch your web browser with the test page and the background image.  To edit the file to test another graphic, right click on the file and select 'edit'

<html>
<head>
<title>TEST PAGE</title>
</head>
<body background =image.gif>
<pre>

</pre>
<center>Test text goes here</center>
</body>
</html>

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Sex offender Kristian Horman (Kaine Horman's brother) released from jail. Is baby Kiara safe?

Kristian Horman

Kristian Horman, Kaine Horman's brother, was sent to jail in june, 2010 for sexually molesting his girl friend's 15 year old daughter in 2008 (arraigned in 2009, sentenced in june 2010 to six months in jail)

There have been posts online by someone who claims to be Kaine Horman's (boy?) friend that has stated Kiara is living with her grandparents in Shoreline, WA.   Kristian has yet to register as a sex offender at the time of this writing (I believe he has thirty days) although it is logical to assume he will be living in the same Shoreline house with Kiara since who else would allow a registered sex offender to live on their property.

If Kiara is living there and Kristian, a sex offender convicted of molesting a young girl,  is also living there one has to wonder how safe Kiara is living in the same house.  One also has to wonder if Kiara is living there why the courts are allowing Kaine to have custody since it is obviously he does not want her and is just using her as a pawn to force Terri to talk about something she has no knowledge of.

One also wonders if her brother Kyron Horman is stashed there with her in the parental abduction scheme and, if  so, is he safe from his grandfather who molested his uncle Kristian as well as his dad when they were young?

It is way past time Kiara be appointed a Guardian ad litem to protect her and her interests.

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Poll Results - What do you think of Kaine's defenders

Multiple selections were allowed.

What do you think about Kaine's Defenders coming to this blog to harass me?
Cyber bullies	31 (50%)
Sock Puppets	24 (39%)
Stop picking on the mentally ill !	21 (34%)
Codependents	12 (19%)
Kaine's fellow BDSM'ers	26 (42%)
Kaine's fellow masons	19 (31%)
Cyber terrorists	9 (14%)
They are unwittingly helping Terri	14 (22%)
Votes so far: 61 Poll closed

Kaine Horman's Taliban conspires to commit theft - and to harass and cyber bully

Kaine Horman's cyber bullies have been conspiring to donate pennies via paypal in the hopes that it will cost me more in fees than the donation amount. This proves they are truly narcissists that lack empathy for others (as well as being common thieves that cannot be trusted). Here is the penny donation button to make it easy for them since none of them have even attempted the theft yet^*:

This criminal element is what is defending Kaine Horman.  They clearly have a problem which they prove with their mocking people that are unemployed and conspiring to steal from them

None of them have made this lame attempt at theft.yet they continue to conspire to do so.

Here is just one such attempt to conspire to commit the theft via paypal (posted on Facebook)

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Does silence imply guilt as Kaine Horman claims? Or does a person have the right to remain silent without implicating themself in a crime?

The Constitution guarantees the right (Fifth Amendment) against self incrimination yet Kaine Horman believes Terri is guilty because she has not said anything in her defense.  In two videos I previously posted (see: MUST WATCH VIDEOS: Why Terri Horman's attorneys told her to keep her mouth shut ) it shows the very reason why no one should talk to law enforcement without an attorney protecting their rights.

Kaine Horman is using the divorce proceedings to force Terri to talk when the constitution - upheld by the courts - says she does not need to say anything in her own defense.  Terri Horman spoke to law enforcement for four weeks without an attorney present and she fully cooperated according to both Kaine Horman and law enforcement.  Now because she cannot be forced to admit she is guilty of something she likely did not do (see: Kaine wants to force Terri to confess, even if though he knows she is innocent ), Kaine is trying to force her to speak on the record (you can bet he will release the court documents to the media with his spin on it) so he can use it as ammunition in his continued defamation and gaslighting of his wife.

There are many innocent people who spoke in their defense thinking they had nothing to hide.  Many of them ended up being convicted and spending years in prison or, in some cases, were executed for a crime they did not commit.

Kaine Horman speaks a lot without saying anything of significance so what is he hiding by omission?

http://www.kgw.com/home/Kaine-Horman-Terris-silence--107562544-kyron-missing-portland.html

In the papers filed Friday, Kaine asked the court to consider Terri's "silence as an admission regarding Father's factual allegations."

"The fact that Mother's own attorney has told the Court that Mother intends to plead the Fifth speaks volumes about what mother has to hide," attorneys said.

"One can only infer that Mother will not speak because her testimony will lead to criminal liability for Kyron's disappearance."

Kaine and his attorneys said until Terri denies the accusations, no other conclusion can be made.

tac·it 1.  understood without being openly expressed; implied: tacit approval. 2.  silent; saying nothing: a tacit partner. 3.  unvoiced or unspoken: a tacit prayer.  IE: unspoken "admission" of guilt

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,899502,00.html

Suspected of stealing from his employer, Bethlehem Construction Worker Joseph Dravecz had stood mute when police read his accuser's statement to him. Dravecz was convicted largely on the basis of his silence. By a vote of 6 to 1, though, the high court reversed the conviction and voided the tacit-admission rule in Pennsylvania.

If a defendant "could not be made a self-accusing witness by coerced answers," wrote Justice Michael Musmanno for the court, "he should not be made a witness against himself by unspoken, assumed answers. A direct confession unwillingly given is a coerced confession. A tacit admission is still an unwilling performance. The decisions of :he Supreme Court of the United States have, in effect, shattered the tacit-admission rule. Whatever may be left of the rule after the enfilading fire of the Supreme Court is here overruled."

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When Greed Replaces Thanks

I remember growing up everyone looked forward to Thanksgiving as a time of giving thanks to God for all He has blessed us with. Even those who did not believe in God looked forward to it as a time to visit with friends and family and reflect on what they have to be thankful for: Living in a free country, able to worship (or not worship) as one chooses, friends, family, etc.

Now instead of a day of thanks, it has turned to a day of greed: People planning for "black friday" where they stand in line for hours (instead of giving thanks over Thanksgiving Dinner) waiting to push and shove to get what they want. This was gradual: When I was a kid, everyone celebrated with a Thanksgiving dinner with no thoughts about after Thanksgiving shopping.  Then it was planning out the "shopping stratedgy" after dinner. Next it was standing line after dinner.  Now it is standing in line instead of dinner - there are also some narcissists that have camped in front of the Best Buy in Portland, Oregon all week in order to be first in line to get a new laptop computer.

This society has gone down hill with a vengence. It has become the ME generation where people care about themselves with no empathy towards others. There have been people beaten and none of the witnesses helping. In Arizona last year, an elderly man gell in the middle of the road and nobody came to his aid - but several made off with the groceries he was carrying.It used to be when someone was injured or attacked, people would come to their aid.  Now the unfortunate person has to fear of being made a victime twice by those around them.

This country is in stressful times because of the rampant narcissism / lack of empathy towards others. Unfortunately things will get worse, not better and this society will not survive much longer.  Those outside of the United States see this country as self centered, narcissistic, and undeserving of the Blessings we have - and rightfully so.

One thing I'm very thankful for today: Global Warming! because without it, instead of the record 10F^o (-12C^o) it would have been 0F^o (-17C^o) or colder. :-D

I'm also very thankful my eyes have been opened to see how wicked and evil this nation has become.  God's judgment on America is certainly not far off - and for that, I weep.

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ANNOUNCING: Alternate Theories is Now available on Kindle

Alternate Theories is now available on Kindle!

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Seattle / King Country Snow Closures / Delays for Wed. 11/24/2010

Metro Transit  http://metro.kingcounty.gov/up/rr/adverseweather.html

Sound Transit  http://www.soundtransit.org/

School Districts / Colleges / Private Schools  http://schoolreport.org/index.php

Updated (for Wed. Nov. 24)  King County government operations

http://www.kingcounty.gov/about/closures/weather.aspx

King County Superior Courts (Including Seattle and Kent)

http://www.kingcounty.gov/courts/superiorcourt.aspx

SNOW CLOSURE ADVISORY:  All King County Superior Court facilities will be closed on Wednesday, November 24, 2010.  The Clerk’s Office also will be closed for filing of papers.

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KING 5 / Belo places peoples lives in danger

KING TV 5 (Seattle BELO affiliate) claims to be the number one in news in the Seattle, WA area.  They even have a web page with the school / government / attraction closures in the area due to snow.  The problem is, they do not update it so people are out thinking their destination is open while the location closed due to the snow / icy roads several hours before.

http://www.king5.com/weather/severe-weather/closings

If KING is going to place a list of closures online as a source for people to see if something is open or closed, it is incompetent of them if they do not keep it updated.

One example:

http://www.kingcounty.gov/courts/superiorcourt.aspx

SNOW CLOSURE ADVISORY:  All King County Superior Court facilities will be closed on Tuesday, November 23, 2010.  The Clerk’s Office also will be closed for filing of papers.

http://www.king5.com/weather/severe-weather/closings?page=40&id=53101¹

King Co. Superior Ct.- Seattle
Government - King Co.
No report at this time.

KOMO (Fisher Communications) on the other hand, only maintains a list of school closures - which they update every ten minutes and they state on the page when the page was updated.

http://www.komonews.com/news/content/schools/36500344.html

It is better to not have a time sensitive news page if you refuse to keep it updated.  If people relied on KING's web page to make a decision to go somewhere thinking the roads are better in a different area, it can and does place their lives in danger on the icy and dangerous roads.

KING / Belo needs to either remove the school / government / attraction closure web pages they refuse to update or  they need to update them in a timely manner.

1.  KING is in the process of updating their closure web pages after I contacted them.  They should not have had to been told that they needed to update this time sensitive / critical information

Giving up rights in the name of safety

Everyone agrees you need some airport security although most agree the TSA has become too invasive in screening passengers.  Now we have virtual strip searches and genital molestation "in the name of safety".  Does this mean we will have body cavity searches if a muslim terrorist boards a plane in a muslim country and has a bomb in one or more of his / her body cavities?  When will it end?

Many will give up all of their rights to feel safe - but would you feel safer knowing that anyone can track whatever flight they want in the United States and know exactly where it is and what altitude in real time?  And not only that, they can also know the origin of the aircraft, what airline it is, destination airport, aircraft speed, and heading as well as lat / long coordinates as well as estimated landing time?  A terrorist with a rocket launcher or missile could target any flight they want.

Here is one such source set for Seatac (SEA / Seattle, WA)
http://www.flightstats.com/go/AirportTracker/airportTracker.do?airport=sea&x=30&y=13

Use this link to watch another airport:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/AirportTracker/trackAirport.do

Ever since 9-1-1 the government has told us we need to be watchful and alert because of "terrorists" and report anything suspicious.  We were warned our infrastructure is a terrorist target and we are to be careful. Foreign tourists have been arrested taking pictures of tourist attractions and  University professors have been questioned for taking pictures of power lines¹.  Yet in 2008 while looking to see if there was a foot bridge in a particular area of Seattle, I stumbled across a PDF document that contained a diagram and engineering study for every automobile and train bridge in the state of Washington.  Totally accessible site to anyone who wanted to look at it or download it.

It appears the government is focusing so much on individual trees they forget the entire forest.  The government needs to stand back and instead of putting so much emphasis on one aspect of safety, needs to take a wholisitc approach to keep us safe without violating our rights.

Next time you fly on an airliner and feel safe because you submitted to a virtual strip search or were molested by a minimum wage TSA amployee (did you know they have hired sex offenders?), just remember a terrorist may be watching your flight on their computer with a rocket launcher sitting on their shoulder waiting for your flight to be in the right location.  How safe do you feel now?

1.  http://www.aclu-wa.org/news/photographer-obtains-compensation-wrongful-arrest

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Snow day in Seattle

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Free 42ndState Rent Raising Fund Raiser Red Eyed Tree Frog Graphic

As a continuation of the 42ndState rent raising fund raiser (see: http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/announcing-42ndstate-rent-raising-fund.html ), this week's FREE^* graphic is a Red Eyed Tree Frog:

*  Exclusive rights to this graphic can be purchased for $350,000.⁰⁰

Please make sure you get last week's FREE Kaine Horman sock puppet graphic before someone purchases the exclusive rights to it:   http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/kaine-hormans-spokesperson-free-graphic.html

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Virtual strip searches today / Full body cavity searches tomorrow

He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.

Benjamin Franklin

Once again the government has gone too far in the name of "safety".

Just because a package of explosives was put on a purely cargo plane in a muslim country where terrorism is rampant, we now have to undergo intrusive searches and/or exposure to radiation in virtual strip searches while boarding passenger commercial airplanes in the united states.

Not only is the full body scan intrusive, the pictures, contrary to TSA / homeland security propaganda, can be stored if the right settings are set on the machine. While they claim the amount of radiation is minimal, it does add up especially for frequent flyers and the people working around the machines on a daily basis. They do not know the health hazards and it may be far worse than they realize or telling us especially to those who have cancer or genetic markers for a risk of cancer or that have implanted medical / identification devices.

The other option is to submit to a molestation by a minimum wage TSA worker. This should make those who submit to the virtual strip searches feel safer when the would be terrorist elects to have the pat down search and hides their explosives in their body cavities. Next you will have homeland security / TSA demanding full body cavity probes and inspection of women's tampons all "in the name of safety" of course.

All our rights and freedoms are being eroded in the name of "safety". Next in order to keep track of everyone, the soon to be world leader will demand everyone be marked or micro chipped in their right hand or forehead or they won't be able to buy or sell --- and people will love it and agree with it so they feel "safer". Of course when the government sells this as a way to keep track of children, the elderly, and terrorists - most people will wait in line for days to become the first one marked.

So unbelievable what people will do to feel safe and secure - even give up their rights and freedoms that millions of american soldiers have died defending.

I never thought I would see this day the bible clearly spelled out would happen.

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New poll open : What do you think about Kaine's Defenders coming to this blog to harass me?

This one you can select more than one answer (even all of them)

(Poll is on the left side) 

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What do you think about Kaine's Defenders coming to this blog to harass me?

Cyber bullies	0 (0%)
Sock Puppets	0 (0%)
Stop picking on the mentally ill !	0 (0%)
Codependents	0 (0%)
Kaine's fellow BDSM'ers	0 (0%)
Kaine's fellow masons	0 (0%)
Cyber terrorists	0 (0%)
They are unwittingly helping Terri	0 (0%)

Change your vote

Votes so far: 0
Days left to vote: 6

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Who am I poll closed - and lessons to be learned

Just for fun, I decided to ask who people think owns this blog: 

Who am I ?

Terri	10 (6%)	Since I was posting (on OL) during the exact time Terri was in court, obviously to those who cared to do the research, I am not Terri.  Also, it would be easy for law enforcement  to subpoena the IP address of where I write this blog from and see that I could in no way possibly be Terri Horman.
DeDe	2 (1%)	If I were DeDe (or Terri), OL would have tracked down my IP address and would have exposed this fact after DeDe was gaslighted and defamed by Kaine Horman and Desiree Horman-Young.  Obviously I am not DeDe or it would have made the tabloids by now.
Teresa	4 (2%)	Nothing I can say would convince people that believe I am Teresa that I am not her.  Only the facts given about our two very different lives show two different people.  Believe what you want.
Kaines brother's ex wife	7 (4%)	This is an interesting theory – with no factual basis to it.  Again, she apparently is a school teacher and I claim a very different career and background.  I am not her – but believe what you want.
just 42ndState	72 (48%)	Only 48% of the voters got it right. – see the rest of this post for a commentary on the results.
Phyllis	8 (5%)	Kaine Horman must have had a falling out with Phyllis if eight people think I'm her (or people have a sense of humor for voting for her)
Carol Gilbaugh	25 (17%)	Unless Carol Gilbaugh (AKA Allison Bell, etc.) was voted on as a joke, I have no idea why this person received so many votes (except for the one vote I gave her as a joke).  She is “kainesfriend” in this post: http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/09/herd-mentality-sock-puppetry-of-terri.html her OL profile is: http://connect.oregonlive.com/user/carolgilbaugh/index.html
a Sock Puppet	19 (12%)	Because of the harassment and threats, no amount of money would be enough to pay me to write this blog unless I believe what I write.  I can somewhat understand the votes, but it isn’t true (if it is, I WANT A RAISE!!! :-D )
Votes so far: 147 Poll closed

This poll, while created for fun, shows exactly why Terri Horman is not saying ANYTHING to the media --- I clearly am only 42ndState as I have repeatedly stated (believe what you want)  yet less than 1/2 of the voters got it right (not taking into account the joke votes for Phyllis and/ or Carol Gilbaugh)  Even if Terri did come forward, most people would not believe what she said.  All she needs to do is to tell her attorneys and to do what her attorneys say to do (which is what is happening)

Why should ANYONE give law enforcement ammunition to use against them - especially after telling everything they know over a four week time period?  No amount of questioning can get more information from someone than what they have - unless pressured so much they confess to a crime they did not commit (see: Kaine wants to force Terri to confess, even if though he knows she is innocent  )

There is NOTHING someone can tell the police that will be of benefit to them - you NEED to watch the two videos on this link: MUST WATCH VIDEOS: Why Terri Horman's attorneys told her to keep her mouth shut     

Also - polygraphs can frame you if you are not guilty and can show you are telling the truth even if you committed the crime.  This post shows innocent people can fail polygraphs, guilty people can pass them, and people who cooperate (Obama's nominee choice - an attorney) refuse to take them: Obama's Nominee refuses polygraph; Green River Killer passes polygraph

Only half of the people believe who the owner of this blog is even when told - so why do they think Terri would subject herself to the open ridicule and being called a liar just to satisfy these same people who obviously would not believe anything she said?

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Is Kaine Horman involved in Intel's BDSM sub-culture?

Tonight I had coffee with a friend visiting from overseas who  had worked for Intel in their country and we discussed the Kyron Horman case briefly as well as some bible prophecy stuff (which I'll discuss on another blog in the next couple of days)

This friend said Intel Hillsboro is known to have a widespread BDSM (bondage and discipline dominance and submission sadism and masochism) subculture among the employees.  This friend never met Kaine Horman although did hear stories after Kyron went missing from their friends that still work at intel.

This explains a lot - why Kaine Horman raged against DeDe¹, why Terri Horman complained with how controlling he was² (if that email was by her - see #5), why Kaine ordered his subordinates to not talk to the media³  If Kyron witnessed any of it or - worse yet - was a participant, it explains why Kaine Horman kidnapped him to hide evidence and to retain custody of  Kyron that he was afraid of losing to Desiree⁴.  It also explains why he raged against Terri after he discovered her complaining about his controlling behavior.⁵

When Terri Horman was attacked or threatened by the landscaper in december  - likely on Kaine Horman's order⁶ - he decided to set Terri up and perform the ultimate (so he thought) parental kidnapping (see: Parental Kidnapping - not as uncommon as you think ) because he figured it was time to divorce her as he likely always planned⁷

All of this also explains why Kaine Horman's sock puppets feel threatened by me and by what I have written in this blog and why they are conspiring to commit theft (one penny paypal donations in an attempt to cost me more in fees than the donation amount is one such pitiful threat posted in the un-posted comments of this blog)  and to cyber stalk and harass me - they are likely part of the masonic and/or Intel BDSM sub-culture that they do not want exposed because, if it were made public - there will be quite a few ex-intel employees collecting unemployment in Oregon.

BTW - does anyone know who Doug Klaasend (of Intel) is?

1.   Kaine Horman's narcissistic rage against DeDe Spicher
2.   E-mail: Terri accuses Kaine of being overbearing
3.   Kaine Horman's Intel memo (reference)
4.   Desiree Horman-Young : manipulated and deceived Sock Pupet or perpetrator ?
5.   Did Kaine Horman install a keylogger or remote desktop application on Terri Horman's computer(s) ?
6.  Did Kaine Horman project his guilt onto Terri in the alleged murder for hire plot? 
7.  Did Kaine Horman always plan on divorcing Terri? 

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Kaine Horman's sock puppet calls me an idiot for ***WANTING*** to donate $100,000. to the Kyron Horman reward fund

 Original comments quoted are now posted : http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/kaine-hormans-spokesperson-free-graphic.html

When I do not think the Kaine Gang could get any more stupider, another one posts such idiotic harassing crap - except for the fact that Kyron is still missing, it would be downright hilarious.  I cannot believe these lunatics who come to my blog to harass and bully me - yet by doing so make themselves look more of an idiot.

I was joking with someone in the comments in one of the posts (See:  Kaine Horman's spokesperson - FREE Graphic as part of the 42ndState fundraiser )  I stated I would donate $100,000. to the Kyron Horman reward fund if someone gave me $350,000. for the exclusive rights to the Kaine Horman sock puppet graphic.  While this part is very serious - I would gladly donate that much if I had it - but only an IDIOT (one of Kaine Horman's sock puppets) would think that anyone would pay me $350,000. for exclusive rights to a web graphic that I am giving away for free and was obviously stated as a joke --- although if someone did give me that much for it, I would gladly give $100,000. to the Kyron Horman reward fund (which, BTW, is $100,000. more than Kaine Horman has donated to it)

This idiotic and brainless sock puppet uses my joking statement - joking because I am 100% sure nobody will buy that graphic for that much (or, actually, any amount - it was a joke)  to harass me for being unemployed because I am blogging about his beloved Kaine Horman.  Why do Kaine's sock puppets keep throwing my unemployment in my face? Do they not know that unemployment is high because there are too few jobs in this bad economy???  Or are they are pissed off I have a paypal button on my blog? (which, BTW, so does the Kaine Horman foundation - and NONE of that money is going to where they claim it is)  To all those who are unemployed in this bad economy:  Kaine Horman's sock puppets are pissing on you too.

This type of juvenile harassment shows the mental instability of Kaine Horman's friends - and birds of a feather flock together - so  I fear for Kiara's safety around Kaine Horman and his defenders.

FYI -  I could live the rest of my life on $250,000. so I would not even miss the $100,000.  --- Just because Kaine Horman and his sock puppets are greedy narcissists that refuse to donate to the Kyron Horman reward fund doesn't make the rest of the world the same as them.

(the sock puppet's original comments 
are now posted )

http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/kaine-hormans-spokesperson-free-graphic.html

Blog Owner said...

If someone buys the rights at full asking price [IE: $350,000.00], I will donate $100,000. to the Kyron Horman reward fund (and it will really go to increase the reward too!)   

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It's easier to see a narcissist from a distance plus many people do not understand NPD and how deceiving and (mind)controlling it is.

November 16, 2010 9:54 PM 

 cpsinvestigator   at 3:34 PM  today  NOW POSTED

$100,000??? Aren't you unemployed? And speaking of psychological disorders...what is your diagnosis? There is something seriously wrong with your thinking.

 cpsinvestigator   at 3:38 PM   today NOW POSTED

You are trying to raise money for rent...but offer to donate $100,000 to the reward fund? Lady, you're nuts. Why not get off your butt,  stop all the hate posts/blogs and GET A JOB!! WTH is wrong with you?

Better grab your free Kaine Horman sock puppet before somebody snaps up the exclusive rights to it for $350,000 ! :-D

What is wrong with these brainless sock puppets - besides being brainwashed and bullies???   Why do the sock puppets come here - to MY blog - and tell me to go elsewhere with my views and opinions and tell me what to do with my time???  It's so incredible, it would be funny except for the fact that Kyron Horman is still missing and may have been killed by his own father.


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Kaine Horman set up Desiree Horman-Young as well as Terri Horman with Terri's computers that he hacked

Thank you, Danielle

Danielle sent me this - it's something I knew but did not think about when I posted that Kaine likely installed a keylogger or remote desktop application on Terri's computer(s) (see: http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/did-kaine-horman-install-keylogger-or.html )

Here is what Danielle said:

humm.. interesting.. now I am wondering about the email's Desiree
apparently received from Terri - were they from Kaine??
Is that why they were not what Desiree was accustomed to - because they were NOT written by Terri? 

 http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/terri_hormans_emails_to_kyron.html

Terri Horman's e-mails to Kyron Horman's mom uncharacteristically brief the day the boy vanished

On the day Kyron Horman vanished from Skyline School, stepmother Terri Moulton Horman exchanged several e-mails with the boy's mom.

But something was amiss.

Terri Horman's e-mail updates on Kyron were brief, to the point, rather than the long, rambling missives that Desiree Young, the boy's mom, was accustomed to getting from her.

If Kaine sent the brief emails to Desiree, it would mean he was pulling out all stops in a well planned parental kidnapping.  Read:   Parental Kidnapping - not as uncommon as you think

Danielle went on to state:

IMO [In My Opinion] - usually it is females that write long, rambling missives - males writings are usually brief and to the point.

The question is: did Kaine "stash" Kyron or did he kill him to hide the evidence of the "unimaginable horror" that he did to him?

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Did Kaine Horman install a keylogger or remote desktop application on Terri Horman's computer(s) ?

With the emails allegedly sent by Terri Horman claiming she "wanted to hurt Kyron" being shown to Desiree Horman-Young by law enforcement, one has to wonder if Kaine Horman had installed a keylogger on Terri's computer(s) ?   Kaine Horman is a control freak and kept Terri under his thumb so, naturally, he would want to keep track of her online activities and who she communicated with.

A keylogger is a program that keeps track of what is typed on the computer it is installed on. The program can either email or store the typing to be read later. While it does have legitimate uses (keeping track of what your children are doing online), it can also be used to keep track of what your spouse is doing. A remote desktop application also has legitimate uses - helping a user fix their computer or logging in to your work computer from home so you can access files - but it can also be used to send emails from a location you are not at to create an alibi or to set someone up.

Since Kaine Horman is a paranoid malignant narcissist control freak (they almost always go together - it is not unique to Kaine Horman) he likely had spyware / keyloggers installed on Terri's computer(s). If this is the case and he saw where she complained about him to her friends, it would not be beyond the malignant narcissist to set Terri up and send emails using her email accounts (keyloggers would log the passwords) and state that she (actually Kaine using Terri's email account) wanted to harm Kyron Horman.  Kaine would do this so that he could disappear Kyron so Desiree never get custody of him like she wanted (see:  http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/desiree-horman-young-maipulated-and.html ) and he could also keep Kiara as well.

Of course, this is contingent on the emails existing in the first place. It is extremely hard to believe law enforcement is all of a sudden showing alleged evidence to Desiree and/or Kaine that they have had for six months unless they are extremely incompetent and want to taint the investigation even more than they apparently already have. I can believe one in large group of law enforcement investigating the case would leak information to Detective Tony Young (Desiree Horman-Young's third husband)  But a second group of investigators also leaking the information?  It's either someone who was a member of both teams, incompetent law enforcement, or a made up fairy tale by Kaine and/or Desiree.     Obviously if Desiree is speaking about the alleged emails, then they are not significant to the investigation and ALL OF THEM should be released to the media. If the media can release the information in an alleged email by Terri Horman that they received today¹, then they should be able to obtain all of the alleged emails. I hope Terri's attorneys subpoena the ISP for the mail server logs (if the emails exist)

I want to know where Kaine Horman was when the alleged emails were sent (if there are emails stating Terri wanted to harm Kyron) and if a keylogger, crossloop, logmein,  or another similar program was installed on Terri's computer(s)  If I were Terri's defense attorney, I would have had one of my own forensic experts examine an image of the drive(s) that law enforcement took of Terri's computer(s) I would also subpoena all the records of server logs that Terri's computer(s) accessed or was accessed from.

Kaine Horman is a master liar and manipulator (see: http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/kaine-horman-master-liar-and.html ) and he planned Kyron's disappearance for a long time before he carried out the plan.

Kaine never denied taking Kyron or molesting him and, according to him, if he won't speak in his defense, it means he is guilty.

1.  http://www.katu.com/news/108352154.html

In the April 6 e-mail obtained by KATU News, Terri writes the following about Kaine: “I have to ask him before I go out to meet anyone. I have no money because I stayed home with Kyron at birth since his natural mom wouldn't - spent all of my 30k to do so

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[Kaine] Makes me pay $1000 a month to him for bills although it's my child support and unemployment. I do all the yard work, house work, mowing the lawn, cleaning the gutters.”

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Kaine Horman's spokesperson - FREE Graphic as part of the 42ndState fundraiser

One of the FREE graphics during the 42ndState rent-raising fundraiser (see: http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/announcing-42ndstate-rent-raising-fund.html )

Featuring the FREE graphic ^* of Kaine Horman's Sock Puppet :






"  I read Alternate-Theories every day, and so should you! "

* Exclusive rights to this graphic can be purchased for $350,000.⁰⁰

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The Narcissist's Confabulated Life (or: All about Kaine Horman)

Confabulation

    the replacement of a gap in a person's memory by a falsification that he or she believes to be true.

http://samvak.tripod.com/journal75.html

The Narcissist's Confabulated Life 

By: Dr. Sam Vaknin
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Confabulations are an important part of life. They serve to heal emotional wounds or to prevent ones from being inflicted in the first place. They prop-up the confabulator's self-esteem, regulate his (or her) sense of self-worth, and buttress his (or her) self-image. They serve as organizing principles in social interactions.

Father's wartime heroism, mother's youthful good looks, one's oft-recounted exploits, erstwhile alleged brilliance, and past purported sexual irresistibility - are typical examples of white, fuzzy, heart-warming lies wrapped around a shriveled kernel of truth.

But the distinction between reality and fantasy is rarely completely lost. Deep inside, the healthy confabulator knows where facts end and wishful thinking takes over. Father acknowledges he was no war hero, though he did his share of fighting. Mother understands she was no ravishing beauty, though she may have been attractive. The confabulator realizes that his recounted exploits are overblown, his brilliance exaggerated, and his sexual irresistibility a myth.

Such distinctions never rise to the surface because everyone - the confabulator and his audience alike - have a common interest to maintain the confabulation. To challenge the integrity of the confabulator or the veracity of his confabulations is to threaten the very fabric of family and society. Human intercourse is built around such entertaining deviations from the truth.

This is where the narcissist differs from others (from "normal" people). 

His very self is a piece of fiction concocted to fend off hurt and to nurture the narcissist's grandiosity. He fails in his "reality test" - the ability to distinguish the actual from the imagined. The narcissist fervently believes in his own infallibility, brilliance, omnipotence, heroism, and perfection. He doesn't dare confront the truth and admit it even to himself.

Moreover, he imposes his personal mythology on his nearest and dearest. Spouse, children, colleagues, friends, neighbors - sometimes even perfect strangers - must abide by the narcissist's narrative or face his wrath. The narcissist countenances no disagreement, alternative points of view, or criticism. To him, confabulation IS reality.

The coherence of the narcissist's dysfunctional and precariously-balanced personality depends on the plausibility of his stories and on their acceptance by his Sources of Narcissistic Supply. The narcissist invests an inordinate time in substantiating his tales, collecting "evidence", defending his version of events, and in re-interpreting reality to fit his scenario. As a result, most narcissists are self-delusional, obstinate, opinionated, and argumentative.

The narcissist's lies are not goal-orientated. This is what makes his constant dishonesty both disconcerting and incomprehensible. The narcissist lies at the drop of a hat, needlessly, and almost ceaselessly. He lies in order to avoid the Grandiosity Gap - when the abyss between fact and (narcissistic) fiction becomes too gaping to ignore.

The narcissist lies in order to preserve appearances, uphold fantasies, support the tall (and impossible) tales of his False Self and extract Narcissistic Supply from unsuspecting sources, who are not yet on to him. To the narcissist, confabulation is not merely a way of life - but life itself.

We are all conditioned to let other indulge in pet delusions and get away with white, not too egregious, lies. The narcissist makes use of our socialization. We dare not confront or expose him, despite the outlandishness of his claims, the improbability of his stories, the implausibility of his alleged accomplishments and conquests. We simply turn the other cheek, or meekly avert our eyes, often embarrassed.

Moreover, the narcissist makes clear, from the very beginning, that it is his way or the highway. His aggression - even violent streak - are close to the surface. He may be charming in a first encounter - but even then there are telltale signs of pent-up abuse. His interlocutors sense this impending threat and avoid conflict by acquiescing with the narcissist's fairy tales. Thus he imposes his private universe and virtual reality on his milieu - sometimes with disastrous consequences.

Malignant Self-love: Narcissism Revisited

Desiree Horman-Young : manipulated and deceived Sock Pupet or perpetrator ?

I still have not figured out if Desiree Young (Kyron's egg donor) is just a deceived and manipulated Sock Puppet that belongs to Kaine Horman or if she is a co/perpetrator with Kaine Horman (or with Tony Young) to disappear Kyron Horman.  Mostly I believe she is manipulated and that Kaine knows how to push her buttons.

Desiree was afraid that Kaine was going to kidnap Kyron when she filed for divorce.  She was also afraid he was going to kidnap her son from a previous marriage (see: My alternate theory about the Kyron Horman case )  And, in the end, Kaine got custody of Kyron and would not let Desiree have him last year when she, by her own words today, tried to get custody of him.

In her interview on Today, Young also said that she tried to get custody of Kyron a year before he disappeared, but Kaine would not allow it.¹ 

 This is the reason why a (small) part of me thinks she may be behind Kyron's disappearance. Although Desiree seeking custody of Kyron a year ago would also be a major motivation for Kaine Horman to kidnap him like Desiree thought he would do when she was divorcing him in 2002 ²

That does not take away from the fact that Kaine Horman is a steroid abusing malignant narcissist that will say or do ANYTHING (and I mean ANYTHING) to get his own way.  This means lying in court papers that Terri was a falling down drunk and then claiming (in front of Kyron's shrine for emotional impact) that Terri was a "master deceiver".  If she was so drunk and passed out all the time she wasn't on Facebook or playing her online computer game, then when did she plan this great big alleged conspiracy that has alluded law enforcement for six months that Kaine claims she planned?

Kaine Horman is obviously behind the "sexting" messages that were attributed to Terri (see: What is behind the alleged Terri Horman sexting messages?  ) and I would not be surprised if he was behind any "damning" emails attributed to Terri.   Oh, and the Belo media sock puppets are calling these alleged emails "evidence" - it's no wonder Kaine's ignorant sock puppets are so confused - they believe anything Kaine and/or Desiree says is "evidence" just because Kaine's media sock puppets call it that.

Why would law enforcement show Desiree any emails allegedly from Terri that is of no benefit to finding Kyron and would only upset her?   The alleged emails were sent six months ago and law enforcement all of a sudden decided to show them to Desiree??? (I believe if any emails were shown, they were not shown to Kaine because otherwise he would have used them to gaslight and defame Terri even more than he did today)

One would have to ask if the emails exist if Kaine Horman sent them in his planning to set up Terri?  If law enforcement showed any alleged emails to anyone, then once again there needs to be a mass firing of all the investigators and this case needs to be handed over to competent non-mason infested (if there is such a thing) law enforcement outside of Multnomah County.

I would love to see the headers of the alleged emails as well as the mail server logs.  I would also like to know if Kaine was working at home when the alleged emails "by Terri" were sent (if these emails exist)

1. http://www.kgw.com/news/Exclusive--Kyron-Hormans-Mom-Talks-About-Disturbing-Emails--108170584.html

2. http://wweek.com/editorial/3633/14183/

What hasn’t been made public is the fact that, a month after filing for divorce, Young sought a restraining order against Kaine Horman, Kyron’s dad.
At the time, she had a 7-year-old son from a previous marriage [sound familiar?]. In court documents, Young said she feared Kaine Horman would “remove our children from their residence.” It’s unclear whether the couple was living together at the time. Washington County Circuit Judge Donald Letourneau granted Young’s request, forbidding either her or Kaine Horman from taking the children without the other’s consent.

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Kaine Horman, Master liar and manipulator

Kaine Horman knows how to lie and manipulate people.  How can he stand in front of people today (in front of Kyron's shrine for emotional impact / manipulation) and say:

Kaine told reporters that a good example of Terri's deception was her alcoholism. She hid it from him well, he said.¹

While in court papers he flat out stated Terri was falling down drunk, had slurred speech, and passed out on the couch nearly every night? (see:  What is going on with the Kyron Horman case? )

In this blog, I called Kaine Horman a master manipulator (see: Kaine Horman: Pathological liar and master manipulator  ) and now Terri is a "master deceiver" (while drunk and passed out ???)

Now he knows what Terri's friends have said about how he was likely abusing and molesting Kyron, he is now calling it lies --- the very reason he kidnapped and/or killed Kyron because he didn't want the doctor confirming what Terri said about Kaine molesting her son.  Kaine Horman is a pathological liar and manipulator.  Nothing he says to the press (especially when it contradicts court documents he swore he was telling the truth) can be believed.  He raged today because Terri was shown in a favorable light on friday's dateline episode.  I predicted this type of behavior numerous times (see:  Law enforcement's media briefing   and   Right on cue )

Kaine Horman is a malignant narcissist.  He is behind Kyron Horman's disappearance and NOTHING he says about Terri Horman can be believed.   It is way past time law enforcement investigate him for what he did to Kyron and investigate Kiara's safety before it is too late for her.

1. http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-Terri-Horman-master-of-deception-108218104.html
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Kaine Horman to speak tomorrow

Kaine Horman is going to give a press conference tomorrow (monday 11/15) at 10:30 AM (PST) near Kyron's shrine ("wall of hope")

The question is:  will he use his media sock puppets to yet again defame and gaslight Terri or will he, out of fear of what will come out in a visitation hearing, claim to be "taking the high road" and grant Terri visitation with Kiara? (kind of hard when, if rumors are correct, she is in north Seattle --- he doesn't want her, he just doesn't want Terri to have her and wants to use her as a pawn to get his way) or will he yet again beg for "search money" and"reward fund money" which will not be used for searches or rewards?  ---- or maybe because of the fraudulent fundraisers he will be forced to announce and increase of the reward  and/or announce he spent some of the money for the idiotic Sauvie Island search this weekend?

Because of his malignant narcissism, it is doubtful he will confess to what he did to Kyron.  He will continue to deny his involvement and continue to blame Terri because that is what narcissists do.

If Desiree is not there, it will be revealing since they have not been giving media briefings together since before Desiree gave her infamous "Terri's parents need to give me $350,000. for Kyron's reward fund" speech.  (BTW, what happened to all the money people donated to the reward fund that has not been used to increase the reward???)  Early in the summer I said if this was a real life reality show, someone would be voted out after Terri was.

My guess is because the dateline episode on friday where Terri was not shown to be guilty or a "falling down drunk"  that Kaine will rage against her --- a typical narcissistic rage.  This is his standard reaction to any media coverage that does not show Terri to be guilty (see: Right on cue )

Thank you McKayla and Brenda

Thanks to the both of you for your kind words.

Stacey: Yet another one of Kaine Horman's brainless Sock Puppets

If Kyron were not missing and was safely stashed somewhere, The rantings, stupidity,  and rage of Kaine Horman's mentally unstable sock puppets would be downright funny.  Stacey is telling ME - the owner of this blog - to "go spit your hate somewhere else" (FYI - this *IS* "somewhere else") in defense of another sock puppet who came here - to MY blog - to harass and bully me???  Why is Stacey telling me to "go somewhere else" - does she think this is Tom's blog or it belongs to Kaine or that I do not have the right to post a response on MY blog  to bullying by one of the Kaine's sock puppets ???  Can't the Kaine Gang even think ???  Maybe Stacey just wants to see her name in print???


http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/tonights-dateline-program-kyron-horman.html#comments 

Tom LeMaster said...

 ...  Too many of Kaine haters do so only for the fun of seeing their name in print ....  

I knew you would dare post a comment that had a shred of truth in it. So, go play with yourself you narcissistic amoral psychopathic lying sack of camel dung. [Does this sound like a nice caring person to you???]

 http://alternate-theories.blogspot.com/2010/11/kaines-boyfriend-tom-lemaster-once.html#comments

stacey said...

wow, you are a complete idiot, right, i mean really. tom happens to be one of the nicest human beings i know. and one of the most caring. you on the other hand are a mean spirited hate monger who has way too much time on your hands. i stand for tom and say to you, go spit your hate somewhere else and leave tom out of it.[note: this is posted on MY blog! - so this *IS* "somewhere else"--- Just INCREDIBLE] no one care what you say, and anyone dumbenough to send you money deserves your factless rants

November 14, 2010 12:17 PM

(BTW: truth and discussing THEORIES is not hate)

My response to her:

Blog Owner said...

This is MY blog. Tommy came here to harass, bully and piss on me - I did not go out and search for him - in fact, I never heard of him before he posted his crap on MY blog. Are you that much of a brainless idiot to tell ME to go "spit my hate somewhere else" when this is MY blog and not Tommy's ???    FYI - this ***IS*** "somewhere else" - so why did you come here???

November 14, 2010 12:28 PM

 All of Kaine Horman's scock puppets harass and bully me for being unemployed and without money.  They lack empathy - a sign of narcissism.  They tend to focus on money and greed - just like Kaine Horman with his fraudulent fundraisers (which they have no problem donating to even though none of it goes to search for Kyron or increase the reward fund)  It shows their immaturity, lack of empathy, and proves they are co-narcissists (co-dependents / sock puppets) of Kaine Horman.
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