Obama's Nominee refuses polygraph; Green River Killer passes polygraph

According to the "Terri is guilty" herd mentality (see:  The herd mentality (Sock Puppetry) of the "Terri is guilty" crowd ) Terri Horman and DeDe Spicher are guilty of kidnapping and/or killing Kyron Horman because they failed / refused to take a polygraph.  The herd is wallowing in the mud and throwing out trash to make themselves appear smart because "everyone knows if you fail or refuse a polygraph you must be guilty" when the exact opposite is true.

Obama's nominee as Ambassador to El Salvador attorney Mari Carmen Aponte refused an FBI polygraph when being questioned about her affair with a Cuban national that may have had ties to Cuban intelligence.  She flat out refused even though she continued to willingly cooperate with the FBI.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/03/18/senators-grill-obama-nominee-mari-carmen-apontes-ties-to-cuban-officials/

The Miami Herald reported Aponte broke up with Tamayo when he insisted on visiting Cuba over her objections. Aponte said she was visited around the same time by the FBI and cooperated fully until they asked her to take a polygraph test. She refused.

“In April of 1994, I received a call out of the blue from one of the agents asking me if I would take a polygraph test. He indicated that there were some minor inconsistencies in some of the dates that we had discussed at our meeting five or six months before,” Aponte said.

“I was confused. I didn’t understand how a polygraph would solve minor inconsistencies. Then I consulted one of my law partners, and he advised me not to take the polygraph. I did want to continue to help. Accordingly, I wrote a letter to the agent, and I declined to take the polygraph.”

Aponte said she attempted to follow up with the FBI over their questions and they dropped the issue of the polygraph, instead asking her to arrange a second meeting with Tamayo.

So should Ms. Aponte be considered guilty of a crime because she refused a polygraph?  If not, then why is DeDe Spicher?

There are those who offer to take a polygraph, fail it, then are hounded for years until someone else is arrested, confesses, and is convicted of a crime.  A case in point is Melivin Foster who offered to take a polygraph in the Green River Killer case near Seattle, WA.   There are also those who take a polygraph, pass, and then later it is proven they are guilty.  The case in point is Gary Ridgway (The Green River Killer)

http://www.thesecretinformationsite.com/polygraph-test.html

Does the polygraph test, otherwise known as the lie detector test, work? Melvin Foster may not think so. Back in 1982, after profilers thought a taxi driver might be the Green River Killer, they targeted Foster as a suspect, partly because he drove a taxi. He generously agreed to a polygraph test, which he failed.The problem was, he was innocent.

Meanwhile, over a period of about two to three years, the Green River Killer murdered four dozen or more women near Seattle and Tacoma, Washington. During this time, Gary Leon Ridgway was briefly a suspect, and he was given a polygraph test. The test, done in 1984, determined that he was telling the truth about his innocence. He was free to keep killing, and he did.

It wasn't until 2001 that DNA evidence (and other evidence) proved Ridgway was the killer. In 2003 he confessed and pleaded guilty to 48 of the murders. Melvin Foster was finally cleared after more than 20 years.

So does failing a polygraph make Melvin Foster guilty of the Green River killings?  If not, then why does failing any polygraphs (if she did) make Terri guilty of doing anything with Kyron?

Does passing a polygraph make Gary Rigdway innocent of the Green River killings?  If not, then why does passing a polygraph make Kaine Horman innocent of doing anything to Kyron?

Once again, those with a herd mentality wallow in their mud thinking they have it all figured out based on some lies, half truths, and slander by Kaine Horman and Desiree Young.

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Sauvie Island Search - Just a training exercise before the rains

As I expected, it was just another search before the rains set in.  Likely a training exercise for new volunteers as well.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/104213469.html

Multnomah County Sheriff’s Public Information Officer Lt. Mary Lindstrand confirms that search and rescue teams from eight Portland-area agencies are conducting a search on Sauvie Island for Kyron Horman, the 8-year-old boy who went missing after being dropped off at Skyline Elementary School on June 4. 

Lindstrand stressed that this search “is not the result of any new leads but the sheriff’s desire to be thorough in their investigation.”

Once again, they are claiming Terri Horman was on Sauvie Island on june 4:

In June The Willamette Week newspaper, citing anonymous police sources, reported that cell phone records show Terri Horman was on the island June 4.

There are no cell phone towers on Sauvie Island.  This was researched using the FCC database as well as being confirmed by local residents.  Terri's cell phone likely showed that she was close to Sauvie Island on the HWY 30 that runs past it or was a phantom ping which occurs in areas that have poor cell phone coverage.  CW Jensen does not make a reliable police source (see: The Sleazy Character of CW Jensen)


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Another search of Sauvie Island

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Search-For-Kyron-moves-back-to-Sauvie-Island/RCvY7WYw7k2yJVysnp-sWQ.cspx?rss=1100

Today 160 volunteers and law enforcement are searching Sauvie Island looking for Kyron.  Obviously they would not be thinking Kyron is alive if they are searching the fields and woods.  Terri did not have time to do anything to Kyron if he's on Sauvie Island.  The two hours she had would have been narrowed down to sixty minutes to have killed him, buried him so he wasn't found for four months, and cleaned up the forensic evidence (see Terri's Timeline )  So if they are searching Sauvie Island due to credible evidence, they have pretty much ruled Terri out as a suspect.

If they knew anything, you would think that they would not have volunteers taking part and would only allow law enforcement.  This also shows the fallacy of Kaine and Desiree claiming they did not search because they would get lost and may contaminate evidence.

160 searchers took some planning and does not appear related to Desiree's demand yesterday that Terri's family give her $350,000. to increase the search fund.  You would also think if anyone gave a tip, they would have waited until the reward was increased.

Maybe some farmers just needed their fields or gardens dug up so they dropped a hint where to dig knowing they could get it done for free.

Maybe it's just a last effort before the rains set in.  Maybe it's a training session for new search and rescue volunteers (see: Multnomah County Sheriff's Office Search and Rescue Seeking New Members )

More later if the situation warrants it.

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KATU raw video

KGW only had a tiny clip and did not air Desiree's gaslighting of Terri event live.

I just found the press coverage that KATU apparently aired live.  Apparently they are the only ones who posted the entire interview without editing it to make Desiree look less vindictive and spiteful.  I downloaded the entire clip.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/104184569.html

Here is a direct quote from Desiree:

“How about her [Terri's] parents give us $350,000 so that we can bring Kyron home?” Young said. She said she wanted to increase the reward to at least that amount in the hope it will create incentive for someone who has information about where Kyron is to come forward.

What nerve of her to demand that Terri's parents give her $350,000.  for the reward fund --- is she demanding Kaine's and her parents contribute $350,000. each for the reward fund too???   She is a very mentally disturbed woman who needs to be locked up for her safety - and she needs to be kept away from the media.

Desiree blames Terri for kidnapping Kyron and then wants Terri's parents to give her $350,000. to bribe Terri to give Kyron back???  If this makes sense to anyone, Please explain.

When will Kaine, Desiree, and the Kyron Horman Foundation donate money to raise the reward?  If it's "about Kyron" then they need to put up and shut up - and especially shut up about Terri.  Desiree says it's "about Kyron" so why does she always make it about Terri in every media circus she's involved in right after saying "it's about Kyron" ???

If I knew anything, I wouldn't "come forward" for a million dollars after that performance.

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Shabbat Shalom

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