This is just unreal to me. Now the Terri Horman stalkers / harassers are comparing themselves to nazi hunters and justifying their vigilantism by comparing themselves to those who track down nazis AND TURN THEM OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. They seem to not understand that nazi hunters only find the nazis and then turn them over to the authorities. They seem to think that interfering with a police investigation and stalking / harassing someone they feel is guilty of a crime (a crime that has not even been determined yet) is acceptable.
One of the commenters seems to think vigilantism / anarchy as well as interfering with an active police investigation is acceptable in the united states.
Hug said...
It's not the "justice system" that is implicit in demonstrations for Terri Horman to be forthcoming in her responses to the disappearance of her son. The right of free speech is at play here when people say what they think about Terri's non actions, or possible actions. If this site supports Israel (I do too) then it should be remembered that many Nazi criminals were hunted down by justice seekers like Simon Weisenthal. The criminals were/are not yet charged. it was only because of the vigilance of private citizens that many WWII criminals were even found.
Nazi's did not petition or demonstrate. Nazi's were THE "justice system" under which those who spoke out - in any way- were dispatched without trial.
What the "Terri watchers" want is a chance at justice for the poor little boy who has been torn from those who love him. His de facto mother says nothing. What mother does that about her missing son? Something is amiss here. Anyone has a right to fill in the spaces.
What about Kyron? Should no one demand answers in whatever way they can, under the law - or does the exercise of free speech not apply in his case?
Yes! Please do continue to support Israel!!
Parmalee Paula Cover
Holocaust writer
Portland, Oregon
The Kyron Horman case - including Terri Horman - is being investigated by law enforcement. Law enforcement / FBI does not need a bunch of nazis stalking and harassing someone (and taking the law into their own hands) they feel is guilty of a crime (a crime that has not even been determined yet) that law enforcement has not even called a person of interest. Even nazi hunters such as Simon Weisenthal obey(ed) the law and when they find a nazi, the do not stalk and harass them but they turn them over to the authorities so the nazi can be tried in court. Even nazis have the right to due process under the laws of the country they are found in. The same rights the fact haters do not want Terri Horman to have.
nazis were NOT the justice system. They were a government that was invading other countries and spreading their hate and killing innocent civilians (such as saddam husein). They may have been in power but that does not mean they were not guilty of war crimes You trying to justify stalking and harassing Terri Horman while an active police investigation is being conducted by making reference to those who search for nazis is downright insane. The Terri Horman stalkers / harassers are interfering with an active police investigation - something nazi hunters do not do.
Terri Horman cooperated with law enforcement up to and including the day of the failed murder for hire sting. Just because she did not speak to the public and all the fact haters does not mean she was not helping or cooperating. Even Kaine Horman the day before the failed murder for hire sting said she was cooperating and wanted to find Kyron. She was the one who organized the first Kyron Missing fliers. Before the failed murder for hire sting, law enforcement said she was cooperating with the investigation. But you and the rest of the sock puppets seem to forget this in your selective memory. If she had spoken up, you would not have believed anything she said anyway so she is being smart and not saying anything that will be twisted and used against her by Kaine and Desiree's sock puppets.
This person 'Hug' is more like a nazi who is harassing / stalking someone (Terri Horman) they want arrested and tried for capital murder (a murder that has not even been determines as having occurred) and not a nazi hunter that wants an alleged criminal tried under a court of law after turning the alleged criminal over to authorities. Seems they equate a nazi hunter with a vigilante while not understanding that nazi hunters work within the law and vigilantes take the law into their own hands.
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I don't find the reported "Justice for Kyron vigils" at all comparable to the brave pursuits of people like Simon Wiesenthal and the Klarsfelds of France. Wiesenthal was personally victimized at Auschwitz.
ReplyDeleteThe major difference is that Nazi hunters didn't just willy-nilly pick who they "thought" was guilty of something.
The tribunal had already established the criminality. Wiesenthal and the Klarsfelds observed the law as they went after some of the guilty who had been tried and sentenced in absentia...because they fled(e.g. Kurt Lischka, Ernst Heindrichsohn). Wiesenthal/Klarsfelds and those who hold the kyron "vigils," etc...apples and oranges, really!
Hi 42nd State,
ReplyDeleteI really appreciate your insights, many of which I agree with. I considered whether you might be right about a “test of the herd.” I can see where you’re coming from, because the facts (such as Tanner Pumala’s account) indicate so strongly that Terri is innocent that it’s surreal how she’s being treated. However, I don’t think this could be a test due to the following reasons:
1. The DA’s office would have to be in on it, and probably Houze also. Any lawyer who allowed this experiment to be dragged into the courts would risk being disbarred for using the courts for such a charade, unless they had obtained the agreement of the Oregon supreme court. There is no way the Oregon supreme court would have agreed, because it would have seriously jeopardized the institutional integrity of the courts if and when the experiment was exposed.
2. The director of the CIA or FBI (or whatever agency was in charge of such a test) would have reasonably expected the public and the legislature to be outraged if they found out that resources were diverted from genuine investigations simply in order for the agency to find out just how gullible the general public is. They would have also been outraged that the agency used children like Tanner in the experiment. The director would have understood that if the experiment was exposed, he would probably end up resigning in disgrace to avoid being fired. And there would be a huge risk of exposure.
3. Any fundraising conducted by anyone who was aware of the experiment would be considered fraudulent and criminal.
4. The CIA is the most likely agency to be involved, but they would be unlikely to see a missing person case as a good subject for a test. They already knew from the JonBenet Ramsey case how the public was likely to react.
5. The agency would (hopefully) have realized that Desiree Young’s campaign of hatred might inspire the next Jared Loughner and that innocent people might be caught in the crossfire, just as they were in the Giffords case.
Of course, someone in the investigation could always insinuate that this was just a test in order to convince a whistleblower to be silent.